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ORMSBY, John (Johnnie) Muir (1906-1924)

03 Monday Dec 2012

Posted by theirownstories in Brickrow Farm, Ayr, Scotland, Ormsby Family

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Helen Ramsay MUIR (1874-1951), James Crawford McGUIRE (1894-1969), James Muir ORMSBY (1901-1902), Jane Muir ORMSBY (1897-1983), John Muir ORMSBY (1906-1924), John ORMSBY (1856-1927)

[for John’s parents and siblings see page ‘ORMSBY’ at top of screen]

John (Johnnie) Muir ORMSBY was born on 26 June 1906 in Brickrow Farm, St. Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland. He was the seventh child and second son born to John ORMSBY and his wife Helen Ramsay (MUIR) ORMSBY. While not much is known about Johnnie, it is likely that great expectations were placed on him by his parents, who had already lost their first son James Muir ORMSBY [see post 23 November 2012] four years before Johnnie’s birth.

Unfortunately, their hopes were not to be realized. Johnnie, aged 17, died at Brickrow Farm of tuberculosis on 17 May 1924. He was the fourth child of John and Helen’s to die.

His death cast gloom over his sister Jane (Jean’s) Muir ORMSBY marriage to James (Jimmy) Crawford MCGUIRE five months later [see post 16 November 2012]. Family stories indicate that the wedding was conducted in a  ‘sombre fashion’ by the grieving Ormsby family.

There are no known pictures of Johnnie.

ORMSBY, Margaret (Peggy) Wilson (1904-1992)

24 Saturday Nov 2012

Posted by theirownstories in Brickrow Farm, Ayr, Scotland, Ormsby Family

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Annie Young SPROAT (1907-1993), Helen McNab WATSON (1890-1967), Helen Ramsay MUIR (1874-1951), Henry ORMSBY (1911-1983), James Crawford McGUIRE (1894-1969), James Henry ORMSBY (1890-abt. 1956), James Muir WATSON (1888-1965), Jane MUIR (1865-1933), Jane Muir ORMSBY (1897-1983), John ORMSBY (1856-1927), Margaret Wilson ORMSBY (1904-1992), Richard Steel ORMSBY (1853-1922), Thomas WATSON (1854-1932)

[for Margaret’s parents and siblings see page ‘ORMSBY’ at top of screen]

[this post last edited, new information and / or images added 01 June 2013]

Margaret (Peggy) Wilson ORMSBY was born on 14 September 1904 in Brickrow Farm, St. Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland, the sixth child and fifth daughter born to John ORMSBY and his wife Helen Ramsay MUIR. Two children had already died by the time Margaret arrived. I have not been able to determine the source of her middle name ‘Wilson’, although James WILSON was the parish minister at St. Quivox for at least thirty years and had married Margaret’s parents John and Helen Ormsby in 1894. It is possible that James Wilson was a close family friend as well since on October 24, 1924, he officiated at the marriage of Margaret’s sister Jane (Jean) Muir ORMSBY to James Crawford MCGUIRE. [see post 16 November 2012]. Margaret, 20, (photo below) was witness at the marriage.

The photo right [Margaret, October 24, 1924] was sent by Margaret’s mother Helen to her sister Jane (Jean) (MUIR) WATSON who lived in Saskatchewan, Canada. The photograph is now in the collection of an Ormsby family descendant who still lives in Ayrshire, Scotland.

Margaret never married. She worked as a live-in housekeeper / cook for many years, primarily for a well-to-do elderly bachelor. Apparently it was a position that financially allowed her to indulge in her enjoyment of fashion as family stories indicate that she “had a sense of style and always wore lovely clothes”. When the elderly bachelor died he left Margaret a bequest sufficiently large that she was able to buy or build a small home for her retirement.

About 1947 when her brother Henry (Harry) ORMSBY married, Margaret decided that it would be best if Harry and his bride Annie Young SPROAT had Brickrow Farm to themselves without the presence of their mother Helen who had become domineering and overbearing woman. Margaret took a housekeeping job in East Kilbride and took her mother with her. After her mother’s death in 1951, Margaret continued to work as a housekeeper.

On her retirement Margaret lived at her home at 3 Allenfield Road in Ayr. Family ties were important to her and Margaret was a letter writer. From family photos and letters I know that, although she never travelled to Canada, she maintained contact with her Saskatchewan cousins [children of Jane MUIR and Thomas WATSON] and they visited her whenever possible. She may also have been in touch with her cousins in New Zealand (children of Richard Steele ORMSBY), and Australia (children of James Henry ORMSBY), unfortunately no records or letters have been found to indicate this was the case.

Family members from Canada did stay in touch and visited whenever they were in Scotland.

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Photo left: Annie, Harry and Margaret Ormsby, taken Alloway, Ayrshire Scotland in 1977 by Elsie (Watson) Slater from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Brig’O’Doon in the background. See Donald Slater’s Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/palaeoecogeek for this an other family photographs.

Photo left: Margaret (left) and her sister Jean Muir (ORMSBY) McGUIRE (right) at 3 Allenfield Road, Ayr, with Canadian cousin Samuel Acton WATSON, from Victoria, British Columbia. Sam’s father, James Muir WATSON, was a 1st cousin of Margaret and Jean. This visit occurred about 1982. Photo above and below are from the author’s collection.

Photo left: Thomas (‘Tom’) Watson ACTON, from Saskatchewan, visited Margaret in 1984, the visit referred to in the letter below. Tom’s mother Helen (Nell) McNab (WATSON) ACTON and Margaret were 1st cousins.

3, Allenfield Rd., Ayr, 17.1.85

Dear Jean & Tom,

I am sure you must think I have departed this world! I am so late in saying ‘thank you’ for your lovely Christmas card and a previous letter.

I am only now starting to write. I had a week in hospital in early December, and had the cataract removed from my right eye. The op. has been a success, but on returning home I took a very lazy fit. They say “Some people sit and think”, but I just sat. I am told that I had left it too late having my first experience of an anesthetic at eighty!

I feel more active now but am plagued with a bad cold.

We are having our first snow of the winter and it is bitterly cold, though nothing like in the south of England.

[page 2 of the letter, not shown here, continued…]

It has been quite a year. This miners’ strike has caused such an upheaval. Luckily, I had decided to finish with my coal fire and will not use it again though I do miss it.

Ann [Annie ORMSBY, Harry ORMSBY’s widow] has had another spell of backache and confined to the house. I have not been able to visit her for two days but we have long chats on the phone. In late summer she had treatment from a specialist near Edinburgh and was happy to think she had been cured but alas! I think she will return for more treatment when the cold season ends. I do hope too that she can find a home in Ayr during the year.

I have nice kindly neighbours here and I would be tempted to go house hunting myself. I have no quarrel with my present house but the garden is just a bit too much nowadays. However will give it another summer and find out if I can manage.

I do hope you both keep well and you are coming to terms with retirement! Perhaps you will fancy another long holiday as you had last summer.

Sorry my writing is so poor – I have still to get new spectacles.

My thanks and good wishes to both.

Sincerely Margt

Letter above is now in the collection of an Ormsby family descendant who still lives in Ayrshire, Scotland.

Margaret, 88 years old, died on 11 June 1992 in Biggart Hospital, Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland.

ORMSBY, Jane (Jean) Muir (1897-1983)

16 Friday Nov 2012

Posted by theirownstories in Ormsby Family

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Helen Ramsay MUIR (1874-1951), James Crawford McGUIRE (1894-1969), Jane Muir ORMSBY (1897-1983), John ORMSBY (1856-1927), Margaret Wilson ORMSBY (1904-1992)

[for Jane’s (Jean’s) parents and siblings see page ‘ORMSBY’ at top of screen]

Jane (Jean) Muir ORMSBY was born on 05 October 1897 in Brickrow Farm, St. Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland, the third of John ORMSBY and Helen Ramsay MUIR’s children and daughters.

On 30 October 1924, at Brickrow Farm, 27 year old Jean married James (Jimmy) Crawford McGUIRE, 30, an engineer in the Merchant Marine. Family stories relate that the wedding was a relatively “sombre affair” as Jean’s brother Johnnie had died of consumption five months previously, and her uncle Henry ORMSBY had died the previous month.

Photo left: Jean, the bride seated, her husband James (Jimmy) McGUIRE in uniform. The witnesses of the marriage were Jane’s sister Margaret (Peggy) Wilson ORMSBY and Robert MUIR, a friend of Jimmy’s. Robert, although his surname was Muir does not appear to have been related to the Muir family of Jean’s mother. The photograph is from the collection of an Orsmby family descendant who still lives in Ayrshire, Scotland.

Jimmy spent much of his career as the Chief Engineer of the ‘Queen of Bermuda’. This ship, completed in the early 1930s by the Furness Bermuda Line, sailed the lucrative New York to Bermuda route. The ‘Queen of Bermuda’, and her sister ship ‘Monarch of Bermuda’, were the elite luxury ships of that time. They were known as the ‘millionaires’ ships’, favourites of movie stars and other prominent people.

The weekly run between New York and Bermuda took only forty hours in each direction, which allowed four days to be spent on the island. For Jimmy, as a senior officer, it was a glamorous route and lifestyle on a luxurious ship.

Jimmy was seldom at home in Scotland with his family since his route lay between New York and Bermuda. Passenger records show that Jean had one opportunity to join Jimmy and they lived in Bermuda from 1952 to 1957. Jean returned to Scotland for a short visit in 1956. Jean loved tropical Bermuda, particularly the garden she grew.

In September 1957 both Jean and Jimmy returned to Scotland. Jimmy was 63 and perhaps he had retired?

Jean and Jimmy had a home in Mauchline (5 Weldon Road), Ayrshire where Jimmy died in 1969. After Jimmy died, Jean continued to live in Mauchline. She died in 1983, aged 86. She is remembered as a “lovely person, she looked after her sisters and never complained”.

ORMSBY, Mary Manson Muir (1896-1900)

15 Thursday Nov 2012

Posted by theirownstories in Brickrow Farm, Ayr, Scotland, Ormsby Family

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Helen MCNAB (1844-1929), Helen McNab Steel ORMSBY (1895-1976), Helen Ramsay MUIR (1874-1951), James MUIR (1843-1924), Jane MANSON (1813-1890), Jane Muir ORMSBY (1897-1983), Jessie Ross ORMSBY (1899-1921), John ORMSBY (1856-1927), Mary Manson Muir ORMSBY (1896-1900)

[for Mary’s parents and siblings see page ‘ORMSBY’ at top of screen]

Mary Manson Muir ORMSBY was born on 14 August 1896 in Brickrow Farm, St. Quivox, Ayrshire, Scotland. She was the second of John and Helen Ramsay [MUIR] ORMSBY’s children. Her given name Manson was after her maternal great-grandmother Jane MANSON who died six years previously at Mainholme Farm in Ayr where Helen’s parents [James MUIR and Helen McNAB] lived.

Mary died at age four on 30 July 1900 in Brickrow Farm. Cause of death was scarlet fever, a contagious childhood disease. Until vaccine was developed for scarlet fever in 1924, it was a major cause of death. Mary’s sisters Helen (Nelly) [Helen McNab Steel ORMSBY], Jane (Jean) [Jane Muir ORMSBY] and Jessie [Jessie Ross ORMSBY] were all young children at the time and there would have been concern that they would die of the disease as well.

Below, Mary’s father John ORMSBY signed her death registration on July 30th 1900.

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